Sunday, September 28, 2008

Society Propriety

The new rules at the Natatorium have got me to thinking. Are our children so naughty that they need to be banned? I would say that the real story is probably the few ruined it for the masses. But the kids are not the only ones at fault in this situation, we all are. Most have all taken a back seat to behavior correction and discipline. Especially when it comes to other peoples children.

Hillary Clinton isn’t one of my role models but she did get one thing right years ago. It does take a village to raise a child. It used to be that any adult not only corrected ANY child that misbehaved in their presence, they felt it was their duty. In fact they would question your upbringing as they corrected you. “Were you born in a barn?” “Didn’t your parents teach you any manners?” Kids were afraid to misbehave in front of the neighbor, grocer, librarian, teacher, or just about any adult they had contact with, because they would tell your parents and your parents would, without a doubt side with them. You slowly learned societies rules this way. No matter what the rules were at home. And you didn’t question any of it. If you asked why, “Because I said so” was as good as it got.

For example, my dad frequently read at the kitchen table. Morning paper, newest Stephen King novel or JFK conspiracy book, whatever. So once while on an outing with a friends family, it got kind of boring at lunch so I whipped out my latest Little House on the Prairie paperback and went through a wicked 19th century blizzard with Laura Ingalls-Wilder. I was soon made to realize by my friend’s family that not only was this unacceptable, they also found it offensive. Not only that- when they dropped me off and “told” on me, my dad lectured me in front of them on my rude behavior at lunch. Of course I didn’t say a word about his table reading. I just accepted that these two adults obviously knew society rules and I didn’t. I was ashamed of myself.

I was paddled in second grade. My offense? Running in the hallway. To this day, I cannot run in a hallway. Anywhere. I’ll walk fast, and even take a couple bursts of a jog if no one is around. It obviously made an impact. I’m not (necessarily) advocating paddling, but discipline. It should be on the food pyramid with servings per day requirement. I’ve watched so many parents try to reason and compromise and bribe their children for compliance it makes me want to vomit. Fear of dire consequences builds character. You cannot reason with a 15 year old girl that thinks she’s in love or a 14 year old boy that found a Zippo. Reasoning is for adults that actually have brains that understand other points of view.

I don’t think any of us can deny that there has been a shift in society propriety. Many people see offensive behavior as a constitutional right. Kids today need to be made aware that acceptable behavior at home is not necessarily acceptable public behavior. But that’s where things have changed. We walk away, ignore or ban these kids, instead of being a village. There is no shame because no one is made to feel ashamed of themselves.

Kids don’t understand the business point of view on this Natatorium decision. But I would bet you a donut that if they start seeing other teens being escorted off the property for smoking, rowdiness, etc. you’d see a change in the element of teens attending. The Nat isn’t suffering because teens are there. It’s suffering because it allowed a few bad teens to stand out and be noticed instead of booting them off the property and telling them why. Maybe even they could have suggested that the bootees inform their friends of the acceptable behavior rules at the Nat.

Going to extremes is much easier than a few weeks of cracking down followed up with monitoring. There are not many places for teens to go these days on a Friday or Saturday night. “The Light”, a teen dance held at the Nat gets out of hand because they let it. And because they let it, decent people don’t want to go. Society rules are the same as parenting rules. You need to let kids know that there are behavior expectations and consequences. And in some cases we need to let their parents know too.

6 comments:

rl said...

Howdy, ma'am!

Sorry, but one of those 'obstinate childs' begs to differ with you on this issue if only because history has proven just how overbearing or butt-ignorant some previous generations have been.

Absolutely no one in the ABJ article confirmed that any of the jueveniles in question had violated either the law or Natatorium rules. Even Bill Lohan's offhand accusation that the 'kids' were responsible for breaking the racquettball court doors was unvalidated; if they knew who the vandals were, they could have prosecuted them, eh? Um, fyi...I know of no few butt-ignorant racquetball players capable of such senseless destruction! The issue at hand at the Nat seems to be one of 'overcrowding' which reflects much more on the lack of teen community resources and under-utilization of the Natatorium than it does on the kids' conduct. Take away the kids using the Nat as a community facility and the place would be empty, eh? Oh, and, uh, don't they pay to get in, no matter what they legally do while there?

It's a wonder that, given your historical knowledge of Victorian(?) morales, you've never heard of the age-old-adage...'Children should be seen and not heard.' Seems to me that many adults would appreciate the fact that, instead of interputing their 'adult' converstation at lunch, you instead chose to improve your mind by reading a book!

As far as your learning not to run in the hallway? Sometimes it's better for a child to learn by experience. My brothers and I learned not to run in the hallways of Crawford Elementary School after my youngest brother got a facial when a bathroom door was opened into his flight path-ha! Put a goose egg the size of a golf ball on his forehead and gave him double-vision; he had to wear a patch over his right eye for 6 weeks. No need for corparal punishment there; to this day I eyeball any doors that open into a hallway. Um...sometimes it's a much more poignant lesson to let a child put their finger over a lit match in order to learn what 'hot' is or the dangers of fire than it is to verbally try to explain it to them.

Lawrence Welk/rock-&-roll/rap, Beatle's haircuts/no haircuts/skinheads, free love/queer nation/Morman polygamy,the Waltons/the Bunkers/our village's chilren...and the variations go on and on.

Good thing we homosapiens are adaptable, eh?

leslie said...

I called the Nat because a week before this policy was announced, I purchased an annual pass for my 13 yr. old daughter. I was a bit miffed that she could no longer go to the Nat and swim with her buddies on Friday nights. Heather at the Nat explained the logic behind the decision and offered a refund. She told me that over the past 3 years, she has more than doubled her staff and added police security yet every Friday night hundreds of youth descend on the Nat to "hang out". Not work out - not swim.. but "hang out" and it has gotten out of hand. Okay - so be it.. but I wondered why youth can't be in the pool swimming? She said the youth hang out in the lobby and the large crowd is well.. large... So I can go to the Nat every Friday while my daughter swims. But who wants their "mom" around when you are trying to be a cool teenager.. Any one looking for a business venture in the Falls might want ot look at a teen club. Remember the Big Apple? That was our cool teenie bopper hang out.. Skating rinks? Oh yeah - they are gone to. Hmmmm what is a youth to do? Go to the mall? Oh wait - that has been banned as well...

rl said...

Well, Leslie...inquisitive minds want to know...did you accept the refund?

Hm...if the 'kids' aren't hanging around in the pool, running circuit, or other dedicated workout areas, weren't they following the Nat's rules?

Forgive me my ignorance as I'm not a patron of the Nat aside from the occasional ARC blood donation, but, aside from congregating in the lobby, couldn't the 'kids' make use of the various conference rooms such as where the ARC Blood Drives are usually held?

Um...forgive me my ignorance, Ms. Heather, but, if the 'kids' paid their membership money, what's it to you whether or not you have to add more staff? Isn't that a given?

leslie said...

I did not take the refund. She is keeping the membership. A few of us parents will rotate Friday nights so that if the kids want to swim / play r.ball / or shoot baskets - they will be able to enjoy the Nat.as they should. Otherwise, she can go Sat. or Sunday afternoons. If they go on Friday, they will just have to put up with "mom" hanging around. Heather from the Nat did say they tried corn hole, movies, open gym and other things to entertain the Friday night kids - but nothing worked to hold their interest. All they (big kids) wanted to do was "hang out". She also mentioned that the young teens congregate 200 to 300 deep in the lobby area and Subway and all they do is loiter. (I'm paraphrasing) She said it is a "fitness" center - not a hang out. I think the Nat should keep the pool open for young teens on Friday. They won't be hanging out in the lobby in swim suits. Keep the pool open for the kids. The fitness gurus aren't going to be interested in the water slides.

rl said...

Well, Leslie;

Perhaps there might be a way to get some of the older college kids involved at the Nat on Friday nights; cornhole is a very popular game on the Campus of KSU! I'm going to provide you with the bonifides of the main volunteer contact at KSU. Megan is good folk...one of my Biloxi Cru!!!

Perhpas the college folk could cordinate with the folks running the Nat to offer some type of programs that would justify the kids congregating there. I don't know if the U. of A. has a similar counterpart.

Megan Odell-Scott
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Office: (330) 672-8010
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Tom Brokaw

leslie said...

Salutations rl. As I mentioned, the Nat. already tried corn hole with the teens and the teens showed no interest. (According to the Nat) The teens want a hang out of their own where they can "chill-lax". Chill out & relax. A teen cannot look cool with sweat stained arm pits and hair-dos matted down from perspiration. Urban cities generally have teen centers for kids where they can hang out under supervision. Why can't Cuy. Falls do something like that? Maybe this is something the YMCA or the Quirk Center could sponsor. Apparently the Nat has washed their hands of the teen agers.